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Kyory Lau
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Nice oversold. Technical rebound anytime coming week
Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Besides that, GB is owning 100% of RWLV comparing to just ~50-70% in GenS/GenM/GenP, therefore making it more susceptible to incur loss in its quarterly/annual results.
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来都来了
let's short to 1c then console
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cheng
new low at the back of positive remarks from analysts :) “We forecast Genting Malaysia’s U.S. operations – Resorts World New York City, Resorts World Catskills, Resorts World Hudson Valley,” and “Resorts World Bimini” in the Bahamas, “to contribute 36 percent to group EBITDA in full-year 2027 or up 20 percentage points from full-year 2025,” wrote analyst Samuel Yin Shao Yang.
Maybank said that, in particular, it was “bullish” on RWNYC, in downstate New York. RWNYC had been an electronic-games venue, but relaunched at the end of April as a full-service casino after winning a full casino licence from the state authorities. The venue will undergo a US$5.5-billion expansion up to 2030, as a condition of its new licence.

“From 242 new tables deployed” at RWNYC “on 28 April 2026, U.S. EBITDA jumped 169 percent quarter-on-quarter to MYR216.6 million,” Mr Yin observed. The analyst added: “Third-quarter 2026 to date, RWNYC gross gaming revenue (GGR) has also been trending higher as operations ramp up. It plans to raise its table count – including deploying VIP tables – to 400 by early next year.”
“An additional 150 tables is expected to be added by January 2027 in existing space, bringing the total number of table games to 400. The final casino should allow for 6,000 slots and 800 tables by January 2029,” said the investment bank at the time.
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Eddy Khoo
not easy to hold on to Genting shares as it s at the mercy of the boss Lim. But I believe it s almost there. this is like the bottom and most depressed point in Genting. the boss would throw all the worst news and negative results ever by Q3 to squeeze out majority shareholders.
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cheng
400 table games by Jan 2027 vs the initial 240 tables; VIP tables incoming. Additionally, the total slots machine has been increased from 2500 to 3900 last month. look forward to q3 - summer holiday followed by year end - xmas and new year holiday season.
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Eddy Khoo
@cheng, boss can impair all the losses and also ramp up cost for renovations, purchases of machines and tables, headcount cost, etc in Q3 and Q4 to make it looks bad.
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Teh Kang Lik
The boss will use the lowest point to calculate the fair price for the share buyback, just like he did for GENM.
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cheng
that's true, eddy. Let the boss do what he wants. :) We just measure the performance accordingly and determine whether it meets our own expectations.
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cheng
May not be a bad move though. Gent is holding more than 70% of GenM, teh. More than 70% of GenM's profit attributable to Gent's shareholders.
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Eddy Khoo
thus, I don't think there would be any good results for the next 2 quarters. don't forget he may need to suppress genm price for his upcoming privatization again in Dec. so that would easily mean he won't let the price runs until then.
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Eddy Khoo
as for the holding of genm, it basically sitting on a 27.6% paper loss now as Gent offered 2.35 to acquire the shares and now genm is trading at 1.70
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Eddy Khoo
I wonder if he could use this as reason to do more impairment losses in the next 2 quarters just like what happened to nexg.
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Vin Vin
genting sold 5% of flng will contribute to next qe...which 130-140m myr...
lkt salary never cut even qe look bad ..and why he care about qe much ? he did mentioned at AGM... and won't support share price anymore...let's hope any surprise of taurx and up coming FLNG..
last time one genting msia and gens... share price RM8-10 with 25-30b market cap...
until today... only 7.9b... feel shame of it
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Jackie Tan
his salary based on ebitda
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股神
1.5 is coming soon jajajaja
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Steven Lee
1.5genting
oinn身家hoot他
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cheng
TauRx is currently awaiting the outcome of a marketing authorisation application submitted to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) for its lead drug, a tablet intended to target early Alzheimer’s disease. A decision is expected this year. https://nrtimes.co.uk/taurx-brings-patient-advocacy-groups-together-in-london-as-mhra-decision-looms/
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cheng
as usual, no coverage on this or the reason behind price being suppressed? business as usual if Taurx didnt get the approval. However, positive rerating if Taurx receives the approval.
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Eddy Khoo
there would be a specific EAG review scheduled on Sept 16 and CHM scheduled on Sept 17. these two meetings mostly would discuss on the taurx drug.I said this because the specific EAG on Sept 16 is a subgroup for Neurology, Pain and Psychiatry which Taurx drug falls under this expertise.
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cheng
lets wait for the outcome first. should be in time to hop on still; upon approval announcement.
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teikchye kee
@Kyory Lau, pls slap ur face 10x...hahaha
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PANORAMA
As expected 2.00 resistance & support level finally broken. Next nice numbers 1.88 & 1.68 :-|
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meteng.kangsar kangsar
God bless genting … lousiest blue chip
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cheng
Queens lawmakers are joining Resorts World’s push for lower taxes. The boss is so powerful? https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/?q=resorts+world+letter
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teikchye kee
u hari² kena slap @Kyory Lau...hahaha
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fei fun
basically casino is cash making biz, high debt if manageable will generate future profit
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cheng
lets wait for the q3 results and evaluate the mgmt performance by then; particularly cost efficiency :) seasonally strong tourist arrivals in Jul and Aug for SG and summer holidays for RWNYC and RWLV. hold rate for RWNYC is pretty consistent at the 19-20% which is pretty good. July was a strong month for Strip's casinos
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mint 1123
老板天天在公司拿几亿出来当自己的薪水。这种是掏空公司的行为。。。公司就是一个无底洞
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Vin Vin
目前的市场。。什么股也跌..如果有注意看的话。。9月开始。很多股都跌了20-30%。。Sunway ...之内。。。
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馬拉ck
之前大趋势的股 是时候开始下跌趋势了
30b 有点不合理了

更别说10b的建筑儿子
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Vin Vin
在股市10多年了。。有什么大场面没见过。。 可以守的话。。多几年也是会慢慢回来
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Ziling Nyon
現在唯一可以做的就是用時間換空間但扞下這樣多美元債務不是幾年就可以還清,十年之後也不知道可否還得清
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Vin Vin
看看mgm debt 多少。。31b usd ... las Vegas sand 也是debt 500多亿。。。
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Tteffub Nerraw
There’s sufficient information from the financial and market signals. No need for conspiracy theories :)

The bigger question is cash flow and leverage: TTM Jun-26 operating cash flow was RM3.90b, but capex was RM5.64b, giving negative FCF of RM1.74b. Net debt reached RM28.1b, while interest coverage fell to 1.69x.

So personally, I wouldn’t assume we’ve seen the bottom yet. The key is whether cash generation improves and debt starts coming down.

Dr. Cheng Sifu, perhaps you can advise on the latest status of TauRx and HMTM? That could be an important part of the picture.
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Lim Zi Yen
Nanti margin call jatuh mengejut jual jual
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cheng
no doubt rwlv is improving but ebitda margin has to go higher to twenties; dragged by operating cost/expenses - overhead and fixed cost. show us the results if you will :) lets see how are you doing in Q3 with the summer package. https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/resorts-world-enters-its-next-chapter-after-5-years-on-the-strip-3892214/
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cheng
Genting America Inc vs RAV Bahamas case: Genting filed motion to dismiss the case recently back in May'26 and hearing in progress. no decision from the court on the motion yet. Something else came up in the meantime whereby RAV's boss Capo is being sued by his own son-in-law. Lol, no pun intended. Quickly sort this out and dispose off the Bimini Resort business which is dragging the group. https://www.tribune242.com/news/2026/jun/16/capo-son-in-laws-two-decade-tax-fraud-claim/
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cheng
The Miami land turning into Miami Bay Towers. The project is a proposal by the Gómez Platero architecture firm that envisions four towers, a 300-room hotel, retail, and public spaces. Right now, it's just an idea, and has not been approved for construction. - In 2023, Genting announced a deal to sell the property for about $1.225 billion to SmartCity Miami, a group linked to developer David Martin and Terra. Local leaders greeted the announcement with optimism. Then-Mayor Francis Suarez even publicly highlighted the site’s strategic value. But the transaction never closed. SmartCity sought extensions and changes to the deal terms—requests Genting rejected. The offer was ultimately withdrawn, and the property remained under the control of entities tied to Genting.

What’s being proposed now?
Based on the available information, the property remains linked to Genting. In 2025, filings were also made with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) related to towers between 642 and 645 feet tall—another sign that options for developing the site continue to be explored. The proposal presented by Gómez Platero calls for four staggered towers, with open spaces between the buildings to preserve bay views and encourage natural light and ventilation.

The plan includes about 689 residences, a 300-room hotel, shops, restaurants, a marina, and a public waterfront promenade. It also envisions phased construction, with two towers in the first phase and the other two later.

How viable is the project?
Gómez Platero describes Miami Bay Towers as being in the concept and schematic design phase—an early step in the planning process. That means it still lacks all the required regulatory approvals and does not yet have an official construction timeline.
Not all the key elements needed to deliver a project of this scale—such as final permits or construction financing—have been publicly announced either.

Even so, today’s context is different from years past. The area around the former Miami Herald site has undergone a major transformation and continues to attract real estate investment. And the location along Biscayne Bay—near the Pérez Art Museum Miami, the Adrienne Arsht Center, and several public transit options—keeps the property among the most appealing on the local market.
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Tteffub Nerraw
Haiya, sailormoon dream many.
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Lim Zi Yen
哈哈哈全部人烧到手,来一次Margencall跌到1.00.
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Eddy Khoo
whether approve or disapprove, the taurx decision would be given by Oct or Nov. just two more months the most. Gent price has already been at rock bottom. if you are still holding until now, you can hold for another 1.5-2 months. you may not recover back your rm6-8 entry price but with the approval, gent should recover back to rm4++ due to taurx valuation. if disapprove, well there s no more impact to Gent as Taurx was never in its valuation all this while.
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Lim Zi Yen
赶快丢!快丢啊!股票崩盘。
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Kim Fatt Tham
只有科技股能玩?
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Tteffub Nerraw
TauRX 忘不了,药弄好没? Cheng Cheng? No Pun Intended.
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cheng
Taurx mentioned decision expected by the end of this year and waiting for it. Not in the rush to add since waiting for q3 results by the end of the year.
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Leo
I'm still holding the put, LoL the most steady put I ever hold, don't even look at it until it hit 1.60
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Tteffub Nerraw
Smart move, Leo. No matter what number you start with, when you multiply it by zero, the result is still zero.
No pun intended.
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Tteffub Nerraw
TauRX Cheng, Genting, huh? Hahahhaha, Nice assets. Nobody is arguing that. But the annoying question is ....... if it’s so undervalued, what exactly wakes Mr Market up?

SOTP looks beautiful on Excel, but Excel doesn’t buy shares. Good assets can still become a bad investment if returns stay mediocre and capital keeps getting stuck.

So what’s the catalyst? Better ROIC? Stronger cash flow? Buybacks? Asset monetisation?

Also, for transparency ..... what’s your average entry price on Genting, and how many lots are you holding? Because conviction is always easier to measure when real money is on the table. 😏

Are we buying a hidden gem… or just waiting for tourists who never arrive? 🎰

HAHAHA
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Vin Vin
LKT now is like earn 50 but spent 500.... haha
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cheng
he even brought in the industry veterans for rwlv board, Vin. fainted... Lol, no pun intended. will have to wait how q3 looks like which will give us a sneak preview of earnings visibility during peak season/seasonal high.
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Tteffub Nerraw
TauRx Cheng, how much longer are you going to hold?

From 3.50, you kept saying, “Hold first, hold…TauRX...coming” But now it’s down to 1.80 and you’re still holding?

As an forum guru, didn’t your remisier ever teach you how to cut your losses? 😅must be holding paper loss of many companies... no pun intended too.
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Tteffub Nerraw
Genting Malaysia's 2Q26 net profit dropped 89% YoY to RM47.4m. The New York project is still ramping up, with depreciation, financing and operating costs weighing on earnings. The future may look beautiful, but remember: future profits don't appear in today's bank account. No pun intended.
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Tteffub Nerraw
Genting Singapore 1Q26 revenue fell 3%, EBITDA fell 24%, VIP volume dropped 36%, and mass-table volume fell 17% YoY. That's worth monitoring. A single weak quarter isn't a thesis, but repeated weakness would be harder to ignore. No pun intended.
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Jegan Dorairaj
Kyroy... U are wrong
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teikchye kee
scammer la...hahaha
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Lim Zi Yen
50万等..1.00... 到时侯50万变200万。
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Tteffub Nerraw
New York tax risk....The potential New York gaming-tax burden is another one to watch, with reported effective rates potentially reaching around 72% on slot-machine revenue including related payments. If the government takes a giant bite, shareholders get the leftovers. S
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PANORAMA
RM1.25 billion Rights Issue :-|
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cheng
wah... the boss is finally asking the shareholders to pay for his expansion in SG, US and incomplete takeover of GenM.
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Vin Vin
Cheng do u think worth to pick up the right issue ?
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PANORAMA
Not looking good when so many Corporate Malaysia PLCs looking to raise funds amidst increasing global borrowing costs. Rights issue or shares placement seems to be the only way forward at present as raising borrowings via financial institutions or private credit will be extremely difficult and expensive in 2026/2027.
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cheng
The rights issue will not change the existing shareholders paper loss situation, Vin. Not much details for key dates in the document except 1st qtr of 2027 completion. Importantly is not to let it lapse/expire or do nothing about it. Whether to pick up the rights / how much to pick up / sell the rights will depend on (1) your current position size and whether are you willing to add more funds to pick up the rights; increasing your Gent's position (2) sell the right shares if you are not willing to add more funds for your Gent's position.
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Eddy Khoo
not much details and dates. need to see what s the right issue price and ratio b4 can decide if want to subscribe.
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PANORAMA
Theoretical ex-rights price derived from the 5-day volume-weighted average market price might be ~ RM1.26, if we assume a sharp discount of 30% from current average price (RM1.80) as existing shareholders might not be happy with the rights issue. Let’s see the share price reaction next week.
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Eddy Khoo
my previous experiences with some other right issues exercise was that the bosses may pump up the share price to push a higher 5 day volume weighted average price so they could price the rights as higher price. once the right exercise completed, the share would correct back. so do take note on that
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cheng
hopefully still in time to wait for Q3 performance overview and MHRA decision which is expected before the year end; before the last date to accept and pay for the rights.
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Eddy Khoo
from the prospectus doc, the bosses have to subscribe 45% of the rights based on their current holding. with such high ownership, the owner won't simply undercut themselves as they need to cough out almost rm600 mil from own pockets.
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cheng
I saw that too, Eddy. Is it possible to sell half and buy half from your past experience, Eddy? I am thinking to subscribe using the amount received from selling the right shares? Basically, I don't want to pay to subscribe if possible.
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Vin Vin
Me too.... cheng...I plan to sell half...of the Right issue price ... the issue price should be RM0.20-0.30++
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cheng
Yeah, Vin. That's what I will do too if it is allowed.
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Vin Vin
or maybe can try this way.... fully convert then sell some of mothers shares... I got almost 250,000 lots of mother after convertion
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PANORAMA
RM1.25b (RM800m to repay borrowings) looks like a huge rights issue exercise. However, do note that Group borrowings already at RM45 billion at present !
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cheng
Omg, Vin. 250k lots or 250k shares? Either one is still a lot for me :o
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cheng
True, panorama. Hence, thought of subscribing without paying :)
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Tteffub Nerraw
TauRX Cheng worst value investing stock.
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Tteffub Nerraw
Zero x 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 = ?
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PANORAMA
@ Cheng Just monitor the share price next week and right issue price to decide properly. At least, the bosses will subscribe to the 45% of their current shareholdings and possibility of positive situation as mentioned by Eddy.
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Tteffub Nerraw
Do you know? Genting has been divesting selected energy interests. Selling assets can be sensible capital recycling, but investors should ask why the asset is being sold and where the proceeds are going. If proceeds are used to reduce debt, that's positive. If they're simply funding another large capex programme, the leverage problem may just move around.
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cheng
Yeah, panorama. Hopefully in time to have a look at Q3 performance before the final dates
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Eddy Khoo
borrowing at rm45 billion and to raise rm800 million to just pay debts? the number doesn't jive. they might as well diversify some US assets and raise rm4-5 billion instead. there could be more to the rights issues than it seems. bosses hoping 15-20% won't subscribe and dilute their holdings? let s wait and see.
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Tteffub Nerraw
看来 Cheng 的因果终于来了咯!😂😂

之前一直笑 Zetrix 的 development cost 太高,又拿 Sukuk 还款问题来讲,好像自己什么都懂,别人都是傻瓜。

哎哟,Teacher Cheng,轮到你自己的 Genting 了!长期持有那么久,现在面对供股集资还债的问题,你又有什么看法呢?当初笑 Zetrix 的时候,不是讲得头头是道吗?

Teacher Cheng,请问一下,这是 赛吧2.0 吗? 🤣🤣🤣

笑别人之前,先看看自己的投资组合啦!五十步笑百步,有什么好得意?

股市就是这样,今天你笑别人,明天市场也可能给你上一课。投资最重要的是看公司的基本面、债务、现金流和管理层,不是天天拿别人的问题来取笑。

Teacher Cheng,做人低调一点啦!风水轮流转,市场还没结束,谁也不要太早开香槟!😂🍿
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Eddy, I have the same thoughts too. It doesn’t make sense to do the cash call just for RM800M debt repayment to save interest. Furthermore, GB has more than RM4B cash at company level, which makes the RM400 working capital raised even more unnecessary.
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Tteffub Nerraw
Cheng, is the accounting good? Auditor got resign?
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cheng
Full subscriptions basis and 25% to 30% discount from TERP - the boss is going to get the full 1.25bil and someone will buy it given the discount. Existing shareholders decision is kinda transparent as the price difference when price drops to TERP is covered by right shares they received. It's the longer term question - lower nav and dilution due to more shares/new shareholders vs 1.25 bil cash/funding for the short term
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Vin Vin
now just like casino banker or player..
if successful... in the future benefits to GEnt shareholders...If is failed....sayurnana
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cheng
Yeah, Vin. The boss and his family have lots of money and they can just fork out hundreds of mil just like that.
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Vin Vin
The moat important is ... genting really can turnover in the future or will issue another right issue in the future? like banker vs player now ...
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cheng
RWG, RWS and RWNYC are the ones with moat due to limited competition, Vin. Not for RWLV, UK, Bimini, Plantation, O&G and property as it's competitive.
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Vin Vin
Miami land and Catskills still pending...
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Tok Tiong
if look back now, genting abit similar like Sapure energy, i use to trap by their right issue too back in 2017 or 2018.
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cheng
Another rights issue without selling assets (Miami land, Bimini, Empire, Property, O&G etc) will be a structural funding and capital allocation problem, Vin.
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Vin Vin
Not sure what LKT thinking.... this right issue actually doesn't help much .just to reduce 1.2b.
still got 44b debt lol
maybe need to sell gens is the fastest way...to reduce debt
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cheng
Someone will buy the rights sold by shareholders given the 25% to 30% discount. No ownership dilution to the boss, interest free 1.25bil for short term funding, and potentially entry of new substantial shareholder.
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cheng
Hopefully boss is not trying to increase PACs shareholdings for corporate actions later.
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Man Han
Vin Vin... 啊泰说我公司不要上蓝筹股啊。
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Tteffub Nerraw
Hey Teacher Cheng, any fake accounting going on? Like, with those high development costs?
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Vin Vin
Cheng , one thing I not understand...since the Right issue will base on next week Gent movement right...but what if the RI fixed at 1.30...but genting Share price shoot up to RM2.00 before Q1 2027 ?
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
On paper, it’s about paring down debt. In actual, it’s about increasing shareholding without triggering MGO or buying expensive tickets from open market.
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Tteffub Nerraw
the RI set at 1.30 is basically the price they think the public might pay and the price they’d settle for if no one buys it.
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cheng
Nothing is fixed yet, Vin. Bursa approval, EGM approval and then issue price, entitlement date/price fixing date, etc... If the RI is at 1.30, that means the TERP price is 25% to 30% higher above 1.30 which is around 1.75 to 1.80. And if market price moves to 2.00, that means market is optimistic with the 1.25bil funding probably.
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